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''Moonfleet'' (Dorset) novel question
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D7666
2005-11-03 17:19:28 UTC
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What is ''milk of ararat'' drink ?

In the book MOONFLEET by John Meade Falkner there are several
references to a drink called ''milk of ararat''. Context implies some
form of rum or brandy or similar liquor with ''heart warming''
qualities.

MOONFLEET concerns smuggling contraband including alcohol from France
landing through the Dorset coast. The ''fleet'' is that near Chesil
beach. ''milk of ararat'' appears to be served at the ''Why Not'' pub
in Moonfleet village.

I have failed to find what ''milk of ararat'' is exactly. google and
other engines return *only* references to MOONFLEET. Unable to find
reference books and encyclopaedias including specialist drink books.

I did wonder if it was some kind of code specific to the book to
disguise smuggled alcohol but one of the quotes below suggests it was
safe to serve it instead of contraband, some of the latter being
referred to as ''Hollands''.

''... He wants the same as I want, and that's a glass of Ararat milk to
keep out autumn chills ...''

''... He sniffed the liquor and smacked his lips. ''O rare milk of
Ararat!'' he said, ''it is sweet and strong, and sets the heart at
ease...''

''... There was also a bottle of Ararat milk, and a flagon of ale, for
we were afraid to set French wines before them, lest they should fall
to wondering how they were come by...''

''... and Mr. Bailiff, with a glass of Ararat milk in his hand, was
saying, ''Tis a curious and fine tap of Hollands you keep here...''

''... fill me a glass of Ararat milk, and one for thyself, and let us
to bed.'' I had learned by this not to be afraid of the good liquor
...''

''... warm thy heart; ''tis the true milk of Ararat, and the last
thou'lt taste this side the Channel...''

''... Twas good Hollands enough, being from the captain's own store,
but nothing to the old Ararat milk of the 'Why Not?' Elzevir took a
pull at it, and then flung the bottle away. ''Tis sound liquor,'' he
laughed, ''and good for autumn chills'' ...''

I was wondering if anyone local may know the term ? (And I hail from
nearby and no-one I have asked has even heard of if let alone knows
what it might be).

Any ideas ?

--
Nick
Lis Keard
2005-11-03 17:56:01 UTC
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Post by D7666
What is ''milk of ararat'' drink ?
I'm going to make a logical guess!
I would lay money on it being Raki.
Mount Ararat is in Turkey.
It is the Turkish national drink, a spirit that to me tastes like pernod but
it's a lot stronger. It's clear but most often taken with water, when the
water is added it becomes milky.

Lis
Post by D7666
In the book MOONFLEET by John Meade Falkner there are several
references to a drink called ''milk of ararat''. Context implies some
form of rum or brandy or similar liquor with ''heart warming''
qualities.
MOONFLEET concerns smuggling contraband including alcohol from France
landing through the Dorset coast. The ''fleet'' is that near Chesil
beach. ''milk of ararat'' appears to be served at the ''Why Not'' pub
in Moonfleet village.
I have failed to find what ''milk of ararat'' is exactly. google and
other engines return *only* references to MOONFLEET. Unable to find
reference books and encyclopaedias including specialist drink books.
I did wonder if it was some kind of code specific to the book to
disguise smuggled alcohol but one of the quotes below suggests it was
safe to serve it instead of contraband, some of the latter being
referred to as ''Hollands''.
''... He wants the same as I want, and that's a glass of Ararat milk to
keep out autumn chills ...''
''... He sniffed the liquor and smacked his lips. ''O rare milk of
Ararat!'' he said, ''it is sweet and strong, and sets the heart at
ease...''
''... There was also a bottle of Ararat milk, and a flagon of ale, for
we were afraid to set French wines before them, lest they should fall
to wondering how they were come by...''
''... and Mr. Bailiff, with a glass of Ararat milk in his hand, was
saying, ''Tis a curious and fine tap of Hollands you keep here...''
''... fill me a glass of Ararat milk, and one for thyself, and let us
to bed.'' I had learned by this not to be afraid of the good liquor
...''
''... warm thy heart; ''tis the true milk of Ararat, and the last
thou'lt taste this side the Channel...''
''... Twas good Hollands enough, being from the captain's own store,
but nothing to the old Ararat milk of the 'Why Not?' Elzevir took a
pull at it, and then flung the bottle away. ''Tis sound liquor,'' he
laughed, ''and good for autumn chills'' ...''
I was wondering if anyone local may know the term ? (And I hail from
nearby and no-one I have asked has even heard of if let alone knows
what it might be).
Any ideas ?
--
Nick
D7666
2005-11-03 23:38:06 UTC
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Post by Lis Keard
Post by D7666
What is ''milk of ararat'' drink ?
I would lay money on it being Raki.
Mount Ararat is in Turkey.
It is the Turkish national drink, a spirit that to me tastes like pernod but
it's a lot stronger. It's clear but most often taken with water, when the
water is added it becomes milky.
Interesting comment.

I can't fault it as a stand alone comment but one would have thought
surely the term would be more widely found than in just one novel about
18th century rural Dorset ?

--
Nick
Lis Keard
2005-11-04 18:35:33 UTC
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Post by D7666
Post by Lis Keard
Post by D7666
What is ''milk of ararat'' drink ?
I would lay money on it being Raki.
Mount Ararat is in Turkey.
It is the Turkish national drink, a spirit that to me tastes like pernod but
it's a lot stronger. It's clear but most often taken with water, when the
water is added it becomes milky.
Interesting comment.
I can't fault it as a stand alone comment but one would have thought
surely the term would be more widely found than in just one novel about
18th century rural Dorset ?
My guess is the author made it up. Raki is called lion's milk so maybe the
author swapped a few facts about.
Why Not????
wasn't that also made up?
Is the book a good read?
D7666
2005-11-05 01:12:41 UTC
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Post by Lis Keard
My guess is the author made it up. Raki is called lion's milk so maybe the
author swapped a few facts about.
Could be.
Post by Lis Keard
Is the book a good read?
Well I like it especially knowing parts of the coastline .

It is on line, just do text search for ''milk of ararat'' and it will
lead you to free ebook versions.

--
Nick
Geoff Ellis
2005-11-21 23:35:59 UTC
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Post by D7666
What is ''milk of ararat'' drink ?
In the book MOONFLEET by John Meade Falkner there are several
references to a drink called ''milk of ararat''. Context implies some
form of rum or brandy or similar liquor with ''heart warming''
qualities.
MOONFLEET concerns smuggling contraband including alcohol from France
landing through the Dorset coast. The ''fleet'' is that near Chesil
beach. ''milk of ararat'' appears to be served at the ''Why Not'' pub
in Moonfleet village.
I have failed to find what ''milk of ararat'' is exactly. google and
other engines return *only* references to MOONFLEET. Unable to find
reference books and encyclopaedias including specialist drink books.
I did wonder if it was some kind of code specific to the book to
disguise smuggled alcohol but one of the quotes below suggests it was
safe to serve it instead of contraband, some of the latter being
referred to as ''Hollands''.
''... He wants the same as I want, and that's a glass of Ararat milk to
keep out autumn chills ...''
''... He sniffed the liquor and smacked his lips. ''O rare milk of
Ararat!'' he said, ''it is sweet and strong, and sets the heart at
ease...''
''... There was also a bottle of Ararat milk, and a flagon of ale, for
we were afraid to set French wines before them, lest they should fall
to wondering how they were come by...''
''... and Mr. Bailiff, with a glass of Ararat milk in his hand, was
saying, ''Tis a curious and fine tap of Hollands you keep here...''
''... fill me a glass of Ararat milk, and one for thyself, and let us
to bed.'' I had learned by this not to be afraid of the good liquor
...''
''... warm thy heart; ''tis the true milk of Ararat, and the last
thou'lt taste this side the Channel...''
''... Twas good Hollands enough, being from the captain's own store,
but nothing to the old Ararat milk of the 'Why Not?' Elzevir took a
pull at it, and then flung the bottle away. ''Tis sound liquor,'' he
laughed, ''and good for autumn chills'' ...''
I was wondering if anyone local may know the term ? (And I hail from
nearby and no-one I have asked has even heard of if let alone knows
what it might be).
Any ideas ?
--
Nick
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ararat_%28brandy%29

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